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Stepinac, New York Times i komunizam

Dragi Dusko,

 Pisem Vam povodom Vaseg teksta “Je li Stepinac nedodirljiv?” objavljenog u SD od 19.04.05.

http://www.slobodnadalmacija.com/20050419/kolumne02.asp

 Vjerojatno je do vas vec stigla reakcija na “vase” razmisljanje o Stepincu (stavljam rijec vase u navodnike jer ga sami pripisujete Pilselu) koju je napisao g. Nenad Bach:

http://www.croatianworld.net/CROWNframes.htm?http://www.croatianworld.net/Letters/5212.htm

 Nadovezujuci se na Nenadovu reakciju, kao dobar izvor informacija koji bi mogao posluziti za sintezu znanja umjesto za prepisivanje tudjeg neprovjerenog teksta (kao sto Nenad  dobro predlaze) ponudio bih slijedece stranice:
http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/jews.html

 O bjelosvjetskim hohstaplerima (koji su bili povod Vaseg clanka) i njihovoj istini moze se puno saznati iz usporedbe danasnjih napisa New York Timesa sa onima pisanim kratko nakon II Svjetskog rata:

http://www.croatianworld.net/CROWNframes.htm?http://www.croatianworld.net/Letters/5184.htm

 No meni je Vas clanak napose zanimljiv redi nekoliko nejasnoca koje se svode na pitanje – sto to novinara Pilsela cini znacajnim za ovu raspravu? U clanku, kao razlog navodite svoju nevjerodostojnost i Pilselovu vjerodostojnost. A jedno i drugo obrazlozeno je na slijedeci nacin:

 “…ja sam svoju najbolju snagu uložio u projekt socijalizma, i, via facti, politički se svrstao uz progonitelje Stepinca. Stoga je vjerodostojnije kad o istoj temi piše Drago Pilsel, odgajan u proustaškoj emigraciji, prvoborac za slobodu Hrvatske, kandidat teologije koji se borbi za ljudska prava posvetio pod egidom katoličkog univerzalizma — "Amica Croatia, magis amica veritas". “

 Ovi razlozi otvaraju slijedeca pitanja:

Koliko po Vasoj ocjeni ima onih koji su se borbi za ljudska prava posvetili pod egidom katoličkog univerzalizma — "Amica Croatia, magis amica veritas"? a koji se slazu s Pilselom? Ako vjerojatno nijedan, sto to Pilsela cini iznimkom vrijednom paznje? Jeli to sto nikad nije zavrsio teologiju (sto znaci “kandidat teologije”?). Nije valjda taj neuspjeh jedan od njegovih pluseva?

 Ili je mozda kruna dokaza njegove vjerodostojnosti to sto je “odgajan u proustaškoj emigraciji”? Ako je to, drzite li da su pripadnici te “prostaske emigracije” i inace vjerodostojan izvor informacija, ili su to samo onih nekoliko koji su se transformirali (u nekoj varijaciji smjerova) iz komunista u ustese i onda u ultraljeve globaliste (kao npr Mesic) ili (uz preskakanje komunisticke faze) kao Pilsel?

 Vezano za termin “proustaske emigracije” na kraju me cisto zanima i jeli za vas koji ste “svoju najbolju snagu uložili u projekt socijalizma, i, via facti, politički se svrstali uz progonitelje Stepinca” ikad i postojala neka druga Hrvatska emigracija osim “proustaske”? Tesko da jest jer su 50 godina i Hrvati u domovini bili ustase dok nisu dokazali suprotno upisivanjem u KPJ. A to su u ocima svjetskih hohstaplera i domacih globalista cini se i danas samo ako se sjecaju sto se dogadjalo u Hrvatskoj pred niti 15 godina. Da ne spominjem svih 50.

Primite lijepe pozdrave iz neustaske emigracije

 

 Dr. Zdeslav Hrepic

Assistant Professor
Physics Department
Fort Hays State University
600 Park Street
Hays, KS 67601
E-mail: zhrepic@fhsu.edu

Web: http://www.fhsu.edu/~zhrepic/

 

 

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http://www.croatianworld.net/CROWNframes.htm?http://www.croatianworld.net/Letters/5212.htm

Stepinac i skidanje svetaca onozemaljskih


Sloboda govora ne dopusta nikome da vice "VATRA" u punom kazalistu.

glavniurednik@slobodnadalmacija.hr
http://www.slobodnadalmacija.com/20050419/kolumne02.asp

Postovani Urednice,


Vas clanak o Stepincu gospodina Marovica, govori o puno stvari. Jedna koja se mozda teze cita izmedju redova je ta da se sustavno skidaju onozemaljski svetci, nebi li "ovozemaljski" izgledali veci. Katolicka crkva nije bez grijeha, ali ni bez vrlina. Te vrline se tako rijetko spominju, a insinuacije o ljudima koji su zaista blizu svetome se rasprostiru ne samo pred kucnim vratima, vec i naokolo. Umjesto da reagirate na CNN vi se pridruzujete mediokritetima svijeta koji nemaju cak ni intelektualne sposobnosti analize i interpretacije vec samo kopiranja postojeceg. Bez sinteze znanja. Nekad je novinarstvo bilo vezano za intelektualnu znatizelju. Danas se to svodi na prepisivanje tudjeg neprovjerenog i vrlo cesto suprotno istini orijentiranog teksta.


Nenad Bach, New York

Sloboda govora ne dopusta nikome da vice "VATRA" u punom kazalistu.

 

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http://www.croatianworld.net/CROWNframes.htm?http://www.croatianworld.net/Letters/5184.htm

The same NYT published on October 15, 1946 quite different story:" When the Nazis occupied Croatian Archbishop Stepinac risked his life to aid the Jews.


From: hmfgsf@juno.com
To: letters@nytimes.com
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005
Subject: Cardinal Stepinac, New York Times. 4.3.2005.

Dear Editor:

As Croatians, we are outraged that the New York Times would print a statement regarding Croatia's Cardinal Stepinac's beatification by Pope John Paul as incensing his critics - because Stepinac was the archbishop of Zagreb, Croatia, during WWII, - while you fail to mention that he saved many Jews at his own peril during the Nazi puppet state and opposed racism of any kind. Please compare your article with the article of the NYT of Oct 15, 1946 where you wrote the truth about Cardinal Stepinac with this statement:

"When the Nazis occupied Croatia, Archbishop Stepinac risked his life to aid the Jews. With his aid, hundreds of Jews were smuggled out of the country. He denounced the race laws. He worked with the International Red Cross to rescue Jews in other countries, concealed these victims of racism under his own roof and many of his priests did likewise." You might be interested in the quote by Louis Breiner, President of the American Jewish Society
after the show trial conviction of Cardinal Stepinac in Tito's Yugoslavia: "He was one of the few people in Europe who spoke out against Nazi tyranny, at all hours, when it was dangerous..."

In addition, you are coming up with the utterly false number of 700,000 Serbs, Jews and others sent to death in camps in Croatia. Even one innocent victim is one too many, but the number long established as correct is between 60,000 to 80,000 in camps, while one million perished in WWII in Yugoslavia, most of them as combatants, Croats, Serbs and Bosnian Muslims. So let's not bandy about ad nauseam with numbers instilled by communist Yugoslavia ruled by the Serbs. It is obvious that Serb propaganda against Croatia still flourishes today, even in a respected newspaper as the NYT.
Sincerely,
Hilda M. Foley
National Federation of Croatian Americans
Santa Ana, CA 92705
714 832-0289
All-Embracing Man of Action for a New Era of Papacy

Published: April 3, 2005 (from page 9) NYT

The pope acknowledged as much, but failed to mollify critics, who were also incensed by his beatification of Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac, the archbishop of Zagreb during World War II, when a Nazi puppet regime ruled Croatia and 700,000 Serbs, Jews and others were sent to death camps.
HOWEVER this was published in NYT on 10/15/1946.
The same NYT published on October 15, 1946 quite different story:" When the Nazis occupied Croatian Archbishop Stepinac risked his life to aid the Jews. With his aid hundreds of Jews were smuggled out of the country and obtained the repeal of an order that all Jews must wear a yellow tag. He denounced the Nazi race laws. He worked with the International red Cross to rescue Jews in other countries, concealed these victims of racism under his own roof, and many of his priests did likewise.

 

Na vrh

 

2005-04-19